Showing posts with label postcards. Show all posts
Showing posts with label postcards. Show all posts

Wednesday, 28 November 2012

conversation with mr thomas tharian



Me: Hello, thanks so much for coming to meet us.

Mr t: no problem. so yes, ask me whatever you like, ill tell you.

Me: ok so maybe we can start with a short introduction. What do you do sir?

Mr t:I own a homestay here in fort kochi. After tourism boomed here,we moved to enrakulam and started a homestay here. Its amazing. 5-6 years back there were only 5-6 hotel in fort kochi. Now as you can see, there are big hotels like the harbor hotel, and there are hundreds of homestays.this has been a recent development.We were a family with 7-8 children, so we divided our fort kochi property amongst the children and we moved to ernakulam.

Me:the old harbor hotel used to be a jewish house right?

Mr t: no actually,that one used to be a house of one of the tea company bosses. It was called old harbour’s house. There’s a hotel called koder house now, in earlier times , S.Koder, who was the head of the jews in kochi used to stay there.I remember him being around when I was a small child.Its quite a beautiful building and has now be made into a very high class hotel. You should go and check it out for yourself.even though the buildings have been renovated, they have still kept the old style intact.

Me:What all has changed in kochi since you’ve been around?

Mr T: you’ve been to mattancherry?

Me: yes, we just went there yesterday.

Mr T: mattancherry, not too long ago, used to a filthy area.Now with tourism booming, kashmiris have come there and have started small handicrafts stores there.stragely, this area that once used to filthy has become a treasure island or businessmen.The container terminal that we can see from here has also been a recent development.the prime minister inaugurated it just a year back.now it is competing with the Colombo port, and I think if the govt relaxes the taxes, rules and such things, it will be the premier port in the area. Its going to be the best business. The place is actually called valadpadam, which funnily means paddy field, look what has developed there now.
The Gosree bridges were also a major development in the area. These are three bridges that connect fort kochi, willingdon island and ernakulam. Huge flats are coming up now there because of these bridges.

Me: what did your father do?

Mr T:My father owned a tea company called AVTT( a v Thomas tea company). He came here for that reason.

Me: what are your views on theboom that kochi is going through?

Mr T: I think its great, kochi has developed in multiples.All are literate here. Its very good for business too and its going to get better.

Me:Where did you study?

Mr T: I studied in st john’s de britto school.We were taught by anglo-indian teachers.There was a girls branch too, It was called st marys girls school.The education was very good. We learn good English.theres lots of goof schools like delta study school and chinmaya vidyalaya.Im very proud of kochin.all the communities that live here love kochi,auto walahs love kochi, they charge the tourists highly! Haha. Even the fishermen cater to the tourists. The heritage is well maintained.

Me: are the tourists mainly from other countries?

Mr T:well mostly, but now even state tourism is coming up in a big way.Lots of I.T companies are coming in for trips. The govt too is encouraging them by giving incentives and funds. Actually,the I.T sector is the cheapest manpower youll find in kerala.all of these people ended up going to the gulf to work because bigger companies were paying more there.

Me: our project is probably going to revolve around food.

Mr t: oh, you get lots of kerala speciality food here. All the tourists want to try out our food.Puttu, which is a steamed cake, is quite a hit, and you get it for really cheap on the roadside and you get really expensive ones in the hotels! In my father’s time, our breakfast used to cost 25 ps, We were fond of appam and curry, puttu and such things.

Me: who generally cooks food in the household?

Mr T: women are in the kitchen all the time, while the men go out and work. But now, men have also started going for hotel management and cooking courses and even they are respectable courses because of the tourism sector. Earlier they weren’t considered to be good courses. Parents would want their children to become doctors, or engineers.earlier parents would be shy to tell others if their son was a chef.

Me:its late, you came from ernakulam right now?

Mr T: oh yes, it was a friend’s wedding, im a bass singer, we had a singing session with a choir.you guys should come to the church on Sunday, I sing in the malayali mass over there.
Me: sure!                                            
Mr t: anyway, I have to go home and eat dinner now, let me know how your project goes and call me if you need any help.
Me: sure sir! Thanks a lot!

conversation with tg suresh.

Our project is moving in a direction where we collect conversations with different people from kochi, over food. yesterday, i spoke with a local artist called suresh while we had black tea and shared a bidi.

We plan to represent these conversations in the form of postcards, so i decided to start some iterations.
below is a summary of the conversation and the images are what i drew later.

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Me: wow! nice studio!
Mr S: its a small one, but the energy is great!

Me: desmond, sent me here.
Mr S: oh yeah, hes a good friend of mine.

Me: can i talk to you for sometime?
Mr: sure, lets talk over tea, maybe we can eat something too.

(walk to small tea shop closeby, the area is mattancherry, he orders tea. black for himself, milk chai for me, he lights a bidi and we sit down at a  small table)

Me: there were a lot of elephant paintings i saw in your studio. why are you so interested in elephants?
Mr S:haha! ive been working on this series for 7 years now. i draw only elephants. not normal black, or grey, not even white ones, but in different colours, in different postures.

Me: hmm, why so?
Mr S: haha everyone asks me that. at times i tell people, that the elephant's trunk is so unique, or its the biggest land animal. ill tell  you tt something interesting,i think elephants are socialist animals, when i kid is born, every mother takes care of the kid. we have a lot to learn from them dont we? and you might not agree,but my aim is not to represent elephants. i am representing humans. this is me dream for the world, free people, happy peaceful people, elephants without chains.

Me:are you interested in politics?
Mr S: yes, sure im very interested in politics. but i dont contest elections or anything. im saying what i need to say through the images im making.my paintings are for the people.  i dont agree with people who say communism is an old concept.

Me: kerala has a history of communism right?
Mr S: yeah that might have been there earlier. but now its become bureaucratic. its not communism. 
do you know 80 years back common people didnt have clothes to wear in kerala!?

Me: really? sounds impossible to me.
Mr S: no im telling you only the rajas had some kind of long coats, the common people had nothing much at all. if they wanted to cover themselves up, they had to pay taxes!

Me:what? why?
Mr S: thats how the maharajas rule was.

Me: do these things that youre concerned with figure in your paintings?
Mr S:yes. i paint freedom. ultimate freedom. dancing elephants. jumping elephants. i think thats how the world should be.

Me:what are your views on the biennale?
Mr S: i think those guys are doing a corporate event. the biennale is not for the people. there is no local representation. there are so many local artists. no one is displaying there. we are planning to hold a parallel event on 12/12/12 where we local artists will talk about our views.

Me:i saw a few bob marley posters around. whats that about?
Mr S: i believe in bob marley's philosophy. his music came to me 30 years ago. we used to go to fort kochi to find cassetes and we'd listen to his music. his music was music of the opressed people. it had a fighting spirit.every two years, we organise a bob marley remembering event, and i read my poems there and give talks about my philosophies.
this is an excerpt from one poem i wrote last year.
" say no barricade
say no border
say no fort
say no force
say no war
hence only peace
and
freedom
of everyone"

Me: do you think people are opressed in kerala?
Mr V: must be.

Me: what about  other communities?
Mr v: yeah there are lots of different communities here. there are a handful of places like kochi in the world. there are jews, muslims, malayalis, christians everyone. i have hundreds of friends around here. from all communities. you should come here in the evening. we have a session of music and lot of my friends gather and talk and sing.

Me: sure i would like to come for that!
Mr S: you must.see you for now.

Me: bye.

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